Why American Women Don’t Like Asian Girls?
May 23rd, 2008 | 
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Any man who has dated Asian girls who live in the United States, has witnessed the wrath, jealously and prejudice of American women towards Asian girls.
The stereotypical has some merit: American women can’t compete against the Asians sexuality, American women feel threatened and some American women simply think Asians are stealing their men. These all bear some truth.
If we frequent a typical American club, I have had my dates threaten by American women in the restroom. In time, Asian clubs sprung up in the United States. At an Asian club, American women are welcome. I have never seen an American lady being threatened by Asians in a typical Asian club. It just isn’t their nature. The crowds in these clubs are usually Asian girls and American men.
They met in the Philippines, got married, and came to the United States with their military husband. Consequently, you’ll meet Asian girls in clubs who are married. If you mingle with Asian girls that frequent the clubs for any length of time, you will eventually meet ladies who are unfaithful.
This unfaithfulness is how Filipina girls are branded as whores by American women. This doesn’t carry the same stigma for American women who may do the same. Hypocrisy is always evident when behaviors of the two cultures are compared.
Asian dating sites have sprung up all over the internet. Some of these sites try to exploit the Asians sexuality. However, there are many Asian girls who want to meet a sincere gentleman for a relationship.
As attractive as Asian girls may be, American men are also captivated by the Asians behavior towards men. A man’s dream of having a wife who wants to please him, appreciates his love and treasures his efforts in making a home seems to have been found by American men in the Asian culture.
You’ll hear American men call these values traditional values because at one time these were the values that held the American family together.
In turn, these men are happy, want to provide for their wife and have no desire to look elsewhere for this appreciation.
It’s chemistry that once prevailed many years ago in the United States and has been lost in the myriad of women rights in American society.
Why do Filipina women want to marry a foreigner from another country? I’m not going to argue the fact that these ladies want a better life. It’s probably true.
I will argue that most women, no matter the country, want to marry in to a better life. Again, it is the hypocrisy of which you are that makes a behavior negative or not. Most women, in the United States, need to look in a mirror before judging ladies from other cultures. Besides wanting a better life, most Asian ladies want better treatment.
Here in the United States, most men come to expect a lady isn’t required to serve him, to want to please him, and love him for who he is. When an Asian girl does, his appreciation is certain.
For an Asian lady, the man doesn’t have to be super rich or look like a movie star, just treat her well and show his love. It’s a merry-go-round with respect and love as its focal point. She wants to please him, he loves her for pleasing him, and she loves him for showing he appreciates her love and so on.
All the above words, statements and my observations have their exceptions. There is no doubt; there are bad men in every country. There is no doubt that some women only are in it for the money or to get a free pass to the United States.
If a few instances define the standards, then just getting a marriage license in the United States should have a warning imprinted in gold. No matter if a couple met through the internet or at the neighborhood church, you have your share of scandals and mistreatment.
The last culture of experts that needs to be giving advice about how to meet and marry a woman is the United States “is there any other country whose divorce rate is higher?
The Philippines and Far Eastern countries do not condone online dating sites. For that matter, it is against the law. I’m not going to quote their law here, but it has to do with moral issues. Again hypocrisy!
I started this article to comment on why a lot of American women despise Asian girls. Not all American women, but a lot. But the discrimination doesn’t stop there. It is evident in the media, politics and indeed in their own country.
The people, who are forgotten, are the couples themselves. Why not just ask them? If two people who found each other are happy, in love and want to be together, why the media and politician think does they know better. Take your hatred, your narrow minded views and negative publicity elsewhere and let us find love “even if we find it on the internet.
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Tara,
What has happened to you really sucks. It would break my heart if something like that happened to me, and I am not sure if I would be able to handle the situation as maturely as you seem to have.
Rest assured, women who act catty like the ones you’ve described can’t hide that side of themselves forever. I knew a lot of western men in japan who were trapped in loveless cold marriages with the nastiest (personality-wise) women. They had no idea what they were getting into when they first entered the marriage. Granted marriages between all kinds of people end up sour.
If a guy isn’t able to distinguish a jewel like you from pigs like those catty girls, you probably don’t want him anyway.
No one should tolerate a friend who tries to break up their relationships. You’ll find someone better. Maybe a nice asian guy!
I think Filipinas are some of the most beautiful, sweet women on earth. Can you blame a man for wanting to marry a Filipina? I don’t think so!
Hi, I have been reading the comments on here about American Women that don’t like Asian women. I have to say that I don’t think that is true as much as I have seen a lot of Asian women that don’t like American women. In the passed I have encountered more angry and rude Asian women toward me personally, than me being angry toward them. I think it isn’t as cut and dried as ALL of one culture being a certain way. There are good and bad. When I deal with Asian women on the local military base, they come in all different dispositions. Some are kind and easy to chat with and others are riddled with anger and downright hatred. So you can’t really make generalizations. As far as the men that prefer one to the other, those that will ONLY date Asian women are limiting themselves to the wonderful possibilities that any one given woman could offer. I happen to be an American woman of Greek decent and my philosophy about my husband is no different than the perceived attitude that men have of Asians. I do believe in making my husband happy and taking care of his needs. I just don’t subscribe to the submissive little lady attitude. I’m a human being, not a robot! You must engage me in conversation, you must negotiate each situation that comes up in life and WE must work together as a team. This has worked for me in my marriage and my darling husband is a happy man. As I have seen it, I notice that a lot of Asian women can be catty and manipulative, no different than any American women. So these sweeping generalizations about American Women, compared to Asian Women are not accurate.
It’s not always that American women “hate Asian women for stealing their men”. Rather, there are several other reasons! I have lots of female Asian friends (especially ones attracted to American males), and I don’t have a single reason to hate one of them. One really, REALLY big reason why some American women dislike Asian women however is because some Asian women find it okay for themselves to date American men, but NOT okay for American women to date ASIAN men. I have always been attracted to Asian men, but many times I find that I am highly disliked by Asian women because of it. I have no problem with Asian women dating American men, but I don’t understand why some feel American women can’t date Asian men! =o
Kim,
Thank you. I guess the bottom-line that I was trying to state, is that we all (guys and girls) have this fantasy in our head of what we want. Alot of it is based on bad stereotypes that society and our environment continue to influence and pass along. Each individual person is different physically, emotionally, and mentally. If we catorgerize everyone based on ethnic background and not see them as a person we will always have discussion boards like this one. All of the qualities mention in the previous boards can be found in numerous people regardless if they are Asian, European, Latin, or American (which is a mass variety of different cultures and backgrounds). We just have to open our minds from feeding into stereotypes and look for more than just phyical/visual attraction. Looks can be decieving and as the old phrase goes “Don’t judge a book by it’s cover.”
For the most part I like everyone until they give me a reason not to like them. I’ve never disliked someone simply because they were different than me.
You will always have some kind of dislike or jealousy if someone states that I prefer something over something else merely on appearance. People often say things and do not know the power of their words. The words you state can start jealousy and hatred in those that you are around if you are not careful. I’m sure that most women or men that have a dislike for someone or type of person is a result of something that they encountered. It is an individual issue that only the person that feels that way can fix.
I suggest a title change. I’m assuming that you’re talking about WHITE American women, not all American women. American does not equal white. This is a very diverse country. Now where do I belong since I’m an Asian AMERICAN, born and raised in this beautiful country(and so were my parents and grandparents) and I certainly don’t hate Asian girls from Asia? I feel like a foreigner on this thread, geez.
I don’t like it when Asian girls from Asia just marry white/black guys for green card and all that stuff, but I don’t mind if their relationship is based on love. Well, why should I care about other people’s marriage anyway. I wouldn’t mind at all if an Asian guy were to date a non-Asian girl. I’d actually be looking up to that girl because some girls out there are so shallow that they automatically think nerdy computer geek when they hear the word “Asian guy”. Aww, Tara. *Hugs* You’re one strong American lady out there!(sorry if this freaked you out, haha.)
I’m pretty much color-blind when it comes to relationships. What pisses me off is that some narrow-minded(notice that I said SOME, not ALL) Asian American guys get mad at WM/AF relationships. I’ve actually met this Asian guy who almost ripped my eyes out when he saw me flirting with a white guy at Starbucks. It also makes me pretty angry when SOME white girls give me dirty looks and say that I’m some slutty gold-digger from an oppressed Asian country when I’m hanging out in public with my white guy friend or boyfriend(I used to go out with one, but I’m currently with this amazing Japanese American guy). Not all WM/AF relationships are based on cash, and it makes me mad when people generalize.
tara,
It’s good to see that you’re taking that situation well. I’d be so pissed off if something like that had ever happened to me. (except that I’m a guy so I don’t really see much connection with the opposite way around) I’m actually moving to japan in several months and now I’m scared to death that I’ll face such problems with being either used, dumped, having my girl stolen from me or any combination of the former. Oh well, I have no problem with dying alone. (although it may suck to some extent)
Jenna:
We have been fighting this war of what defines an American woman for a long time and unfortunately many both here and abroad hold on to the white supremacist definition which goes to show that we all have some white supremacist tendencies in us whaterver the color of our skin. Many folks do not consider Hawaii or for that matter Alaska part of the US. Two Asian American cousins go to Hong Kong every other year with their families to visit other cousins..and they are always introduced as cousins from Hawaii or Alaska, not as cousins from the US. Dubai has all-American country clubs..essenitally white American country clubs where no non-white person is allowed. There are such clubs in New Delhi, India as well. I have a feeling that we will be fighting this war for a very long time!
White women dont like the idea of any non-white women dating white men depending on the area of the country they are from. Here in Hawaii white women date and marry Asian men in much larger numbers than anywhere else in the country. But, generally in the US south and many parts of the midwest or Rockies white women dating Asian men are not accepted or even tolerated while white men dating Asian women are generally tolerated except in a very few areas such as Idaho or eastern Colorado!
the one thing that bothers me the most is when an Asian women marries a white man to come to America not knowing him at all. an then when she gets here and find that she doesnt like the man she married. then she tells all her friends and family that American men are bad people that just want to control them and use them…. “that makes me laugh”!
exspecily when white American women acct like their all on the Asian women side on some talk show like she is some pore defenceless little kid and the man is some kind of pervert for wanting to be with her in the first place.
unless she’s a teen- age girl that lies about her age so she can please her family’s wishes by going to America for the purpose of sending money back to them. I have no sympathy for them….
if you marry for money and not for love. don’t expect to be happy!
THAT GOES FOR ALL WOMEN ! ! !
if you marry for lust or for a personal slave. don’t expect to be happy.
THAT GOES FOR ALL MEN ! ! !
WOMEN: stop looking for a man to save you from poverty… it only makes you week!
MEN: stop looking for a women that will impress your family and friends… and find one that will make you truly happy!
and that’s all I have to say about this issue ! ! !
George, you are so full of crap you squeek going into a turn.
Now, I very seldom get confrontational, but consider this post absolutely in your face. YOU want to feel that BS weak white guilt? Knock yourself out.
I feel NONE.
As for their being white supremacist in all of us, perhaps that is just you projecting your own personal feelings on inferiority onto everyone else. I reject its application to me and to 90% of the human race. People are just people trying to get along in the world and have someone they can trust and lose themselves in at the end of the day.
People in the Philippines ask me where I am from. Why, I am from ALABAMA. Where is Alabama? It is in th US.
People have developed some kind of lunacy with regards to race driven in no small part by the left’s agenda in the US. You had better get your head our of your @$$ and move on to developing a strong financial base and close relationships because we will all need them once the world changers in charge right now get through tearing Americans lose from the last vestiges of their republic’s heritage.
As for me, I plan to have nine youngens, home school them so their values are mine and my wife’s, and while the rest of the human race commits sociological and cultural suicide I will be teaching mine from the works of the founders of Western and Eastern Civilization.
White supremacy, my @$$.
-Tim
PS. Good post, Mike. Marry for love or don’t marry at all.
American Woman said: “As far as the men that prefer one to the other, those that will ONLY date Asian women are limiting themselves to the wonderful possibilities that any one given woman could offer.”
Yup, you are correct. As to those who are willing to take a chance, I truly wish them well. My own experiences have been so bad that there is just no feeling left in me for connecting with someone from America.
Part of it has to do with how I see my CULTURE as much as how I see the women from it. America has walked off from ALL moral standards, repudiated the men and women who gave us the first truly egalitarian representative republic, and thrown all rationality to the wind when it comes to national finance.
Safe to say, while I consider myself a patriot, I am a man without a country who is trying to find the woman with whom I can build a family with its own culture and mores according to our own joint conscience. I do not believe such a woman can be found in America, and if she can, I sadly cannot see her through my own bad experiences. Sucks I agree.
Good luck to you. I know there are some good American women. I just don’t have the energy to look here anymore.
-Tim
“People have developed some kind of lunacy with regards to race driven in no small part by the left’s agenda in the US. ”
Blame the white southerners who started it all.
one like from superman returns. Lex’s line that sums up what i have to say about this. WRONG!!! Lex is cool.
George are you this ignorant naturally or do you work at it?
I am of mixed blood and am also proud to have African Americans in my family, both men and women who have decided…for reasons beyond me in some cases, LOL…to marry my cousins. Good for them, they are happy. It is not for me, though, because I object to too much in their CULTURE, which is a choice on their part, not a racial issue.
For you to blame white Southerners makes me think you have some serious inferiority feelings going on, though. White Southerners are to a large degree descended from prisoners and those that European countries wanted rid of so badly that they dropped them at the shores to live or die as they please. They did not just up and decide, “Hey, let’s go get them African boys and put them to work!”
As for who started it all, what about the African slave traders who would mount expeditions into the interior and bring out entire villages and populations in chains and then sell them to European ships waiting in the bays and on the shores?
You want to blame someone? Blame the Africans who sold their own people into slavery.
Blame the white Southerners? You are almost too ignorant to even be angry with. If anyone has any real reason to carry a grudge, it is the American Indian. They committed genocide against them.
Nations conquer nations, it is the way of the world. The Egyptions enslaved Israel, shall we demand reparations from them? Rome enslaved all of Europe, shall Italy gut itself in order to right past wrongs? Hell, no! What about the 8 million georgians killed by Stalin? Or Western Europes serfdom to Ghengis Khan? Or France’s enslavement to the Moors?
American race baiters, like you, have no interest in peace nor reconciliation. You prefer your ignorance. In fact, you wallow in it. When confronted with FACTS, you raise your voice to shout down the facts as if volume equals truth. All you want is to keep stirring crap.
Well, keep on. China is just waiting for us to collapse in on ourselves due to this. Cannot wait to see how the CHINESE handle American civil liberties whiners who think they are so entitled.
Tim
Proud Euro-chocta-cauca-jew American soon to proudly add Filipine blood to my families bloodlines.
“Well, keep on. China is just waiting for us to collapse in on ourselves due to this. Cannot wait to see how the CHINESE handle American civil liberties whiners who think they are so entitled.”
Chinese dont care whether whites and blacks kill each other or not. If China wants us to collapse they can do it right at this moment and say they will no longer fund US debt. I stand by everything I have said.
Well, you would, LOL. Like the majority of Americans these days you are proud of your ignorance, your apathy, and your total dedication to NOT being responsible for your own actions nor the actions of your country.
FEED me, you scream to the government! It ain’t FAIR that he has more than me, you whine. It is all the white man’s fault, AS IF you do not have two feet to stand on.
Did you know that more than 12% of the population (mostly middle class of all races) of the United States is making plans to live ANYWHERE else but here because of the continuing oppression of the productive in society? That is has become enough of a problem that if you immigrate on a permanent basis the United States IRS was charged in June of 2008 with levying an EXIT TAX?
The rest of the planet, China included, only hopes that the US can hold it together until they can get shook loose of the US stupid debts. Why do you think they had to halt a bond auction last week? They halted it mid-sale, a never before event in order to raise the interest rate. I would explain that to you, but you would never understand the significance so it would be a waste of breath.
Truly, George, you and people like you are the very reason this country will NOT stand. Ya think ya know what is happening, but you ain’t got a clue. People laugh at you while they use you to further their agenda.
I will admit, your decision to just tucker down like an armadillo in your own hatred of whites (whether it because you are not white and wish you were or are and wish you were not matters not, either way it is stupid) got me a bit heated, but then I realized you cannot live your life without being told what to believe by someone who will tell you you are not responsible for your own welfare.
Now, I only pity you and wish I knew how to insulate my country from the affects of your ignorance.
…and by the way, George, you may have the last comment. You are not someone who needs to be talking to someone like me.
btw why didnt u write ur article on the much more interesting, important and disciminatory issue of why white women dont like asian guys? thats the real issue.
That’s not true at all. I know so many white girls who only date asian guys. Its gotten to the point where my white male friends feel extremely jealous and get really mad at me whenever I mention finding a certain asian guy attractive.
there r many ppl who will date someone of any race that they fall in love with. however, we have 3 predominant groups that OFTEN date racistly, not for love:
1. white men wanting asian women: usually they cant pick up white (or any) women, but know that many asian women r easy to pick up so they settle for the easy opportunity. its natural selection – often they r unattractive, old, nerdy or shy. the ones who r ultra desperate may travel to asia to exploit the biases (sex tourism)
2. asian women wanting white men: many, particularly the western raised asian girls, think white guys r cooler due to unfair/racist stereotypes. the fobby asian girls might think the same and often are interested in money/passport. golddigging is much more predominant in poor countries (logically), many of which r asian. (money as an important factor in dating is so entrenched in many asian cultures from times of poverty that today the wealthy ppl r still focused on that.)
3. white women not wanting asian men: due to stereotypes creating the stigmas of asian men being nerdy losers.
also, studies on newborn children have shown that races biologically favour the appearance of their own race from birth, as well as understanding their race (which includes culture) better. so in a non-racist society, ud expect even/representative combinations of interracial couples and the majority of ppl dating their own race. but this isnt the case – due to the racist stereotypes ive presented.
even tho i called myself white, im actually mixed but not with anything oriental. thats y i find it amusing to see all of these racial biases in dating. i dont discriminate by race, i discriminate by looks. hot women everywhere
btw dont give me examples of couples u know who do it for love. i said there r many ppl who do that. im focusing on the majority
why do you keep moderating out my post? it’s a legitimate post that relates to the topic. dont u believe in freedom of speech?
if u want to understand wat ppl often think about WM/AW couples, this is a (i believe) commonly held perception from urbandictionary.com (it was written by a white male other than me, who isnt familiar with the term or location):
Trashcan Man
Refers derogatively to Caucasian men who date Asian women. The phenomenon of this interracial coupling is that nearly always an obese or scrawny Caucasian man–who consistently rejected by his Causcasian female counterparts–is involved in a relationship with an equally unattractive, and often fobby, Asian woman. The white man, often a Japanophile, usually seeks for an Asian woman who fulfills the American stereotype of the meek, submissive, yielding Asian woman; she is an ideal fit as she is the only person who would date him and is also someone who would not post a threat to his fragile–often nerdy–manhood. The jest in the term is derived from the perception that these Caucasian men are often seen as Trashcan Men, in that they always pair up with the most unattractive Asian women, thereby clearing up the dating pool for Asian Men. Term of largely Southern Californian origin and usage, where there are significant Asian enclaves in the Los Angeles, Orange County, and Bay areas.
Grey’s Anatomy’s actress Sandra Oh is married to a trashcan man.
by Eugene Willis Oct 1, 2006 share this
If you want your post moderated, please avoid using indecent and objectionable words.
Thank you
1. im not choosing my words
im quoting them from:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trashcan+man
2. no individual word used is objectionable/indecent. perhaps the objection is to the perception in the stereotype
hey, Trash-Can-Man
I’m tall, strong and handsome…
an I prefer Asian women because they are very kind and sweet.
something you know nothing about.
I have been with all kinds of women…moroccan,Italian,puerto Rican,Asian,and white American.
so I can get any kind of women that I want!
maybe your trouble is that you can’t get any women to go out with you !
if you think that only week,nerdy,fat,perverted white men, want Asian women you’d be very wrong!
I’m non of they above!!!
and so what if fat, ugly ,nerdy, white man wants to be with an Asian women….
is he not supposed to be happy because you or some white women doesn’t want him to be happy?
how does them being together effect your life?
you are so typical….why do you, and people like you have to label every one?
are you scared of change?
do you think if you create labels, people will just fall into it?
like some-kind of puzzle piece!
get a life and stop trying to label someone into what you want them to be!
I LIKE TO SEE WHAT LABLE YOU FALL IN TO!!!
“btw dont give me examples of couples u know who do it for love. i said there r many ppl who do that. im focusing on the majority”
i made this point TWICE in my above post because i knew the innate insecurity in readers would make them focus on themselves rather than the MAJORITY.
im purely analysing the groups at an aggregate level. im not concerned with:
- the exceptions/outliers
- my or others’ personal situations.
- wats right or wrong. ill leave that up to you to determine if dating for love, race, money, coolness/stereotypes or due to natural selection is right or wrong.
im disappointed that you were unable to address and discuss the rationale in my analysis, but rather focus on your situation and imply that I am incapable of impartial analysis. i appreciate that you and others are emotionally vested in these matters, which explains your irrational & biased replies. however, if you wish to discuss and analyse further, please try and think of others/most, not just yourself.
btw, if you must know, im so mixed that its not possible for me to date my own ‘race’ as i dont know ppl of the same mix. for the people who like self biased analysis, i would be deemed to provide a unique perspective on this matter. i prefer to just be impartial.
you made an interesting proposition, that perhaps im unable to get dates with any women. if this was the case, then according to my own rationale i am highly likely to then pursue asian women. are you implying that desperate/rejected men go for asian women? or are you merely attempting to insult me?
i dont date women. i could b gay and/or in a committed relationship. i dont wish to discuss my personal situation further as its irrelevant to an impartial analysis which is what i hope this topic is about.
Ethel, can you please show some consistency in moderating. if you are going to moderate out posts of mine for apparently objectionable/indecent words (where?), then also do the same for posts like the one above that directly insult specific users (even tho i am entirely fine with ppl insulting me or doing wateva they want). consistency and impartiality. please
Wow, I see a lot of defensiveness on here. People who try to justify why they prefer who they prefer. Now that is racism. Nobody should justify why they prefer to date any one person in life. As I’ve said in my earlier post, those people who date ONLY one type of person are seriously limiting themselves to what could be some wonderful experiences.
Since I am already married, this does not apply to me, but I have noticed that most men that only like Asian women have certain personality traits and physical characteristics that have been mentioned in the threads. But think of it this way, if you really liked a man that didn’t care for you because you weren’t Blonde, you’re attitude would be (should be) well, then he’s not good enough for me because he cares more about appearances than the true heart of a person. Same rule applies to men that only want Asian women. They are truly not looking at the heart of any woman, but merely going for her simply because of her looks. That’s nice while she’s young, but as we all know, looks fade and a lot of times, they marry these women and their true colors (manipulative, underhanded, selfish et, moody, etc.) come flying out. Like they say, “Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes right to the bone” . You can prefer any woman you want, but I guarantee they are no different than American women in the end. We ALL have our flaws. All of us. So this defensiveness is really not worth the energy.
Ethel, you are doing fine in your moderation.
This fellow is just trying to pick a fight. He clearly wants to prove something is wrong with the white fellows who date asian women.
Clearly, he has some serious feelings of inferiority. Perhaps is unable to compete for women’s attentions in ANY arena.
Indecent words are to be determined solely by YOU, as this is your blog. Some amount if decorum in polite company is another reason I prefer Asian women to the more generally fouled mouthed American women.
Regards,
Tim
trash-can-man,
your name says it all!
because that where your mind is…….
about that I was unable to address and discuss the rationality of your analysis.
your analysis…..
its the same as a poll.
just opinions given by random people.
and just like a poll how did you come up with your numbers?
give me the list of all the Asian women that are with white men that your talking about!
I bet you don’t have a list of people that I can contact to see if what your saying is true!
because its just your opinion!!!
and I find it funny that when I offended you with my opinions ……you cried to ETHEL to stop me from insulting you!
wasn’t it you that complained, that ETHEL was unfairly moderating you!
quot:” why do you keep moderating out my post? it’s a legitimate post that relates to the topic. don’t u believe in freedom of speech?”
funny how things change when your on the chopping block!
and when I called you out on your relationships you avoided it like the plague….did I hit below the belt?
did it bring back bad childhood memories?
I fail ed to see your point because there is non!
you are a said and lonely man……
labeling people so that you can turn your attentions away from yourself.
but this is what you should be focusing on and not trying to find someone that you consider more pethetic then you!
AGAIN I REITERATE, I’d LIKE TO SEE WHAT LABLE YOU FALL INTO!!!
Getting back to the original question at hand, I asked my wife for her opinion and she tended to agree that she is not well liked by most white american wowen.
She is 5’2 105lb filipina who is friendly, bubbly, smart and beautiful. I sense that American women dislike her more because she looks fantastic without makeup and wears a size 2 dress more so than fact that she married a white guy.
There are so many interracial couples here on the West Coast that most people could care less.
I often get asked why I married an asian girl. Sadly, I think that american women and men are so similar that a lot of sexual attraction is gone! Take two magnets and try to stick them together. What happens? They will repel each other.
When I was dating, it seemed that ALL foreign women regardless of race, religion or color where more interested in me than the American girls. I’m 6’4 and weigh 210 lbs, have a full head of hair and have a great job. Maybe it’s because I’m over 40 years old? Whatever the reason, I had a much better success rate with foreign women.
Still to this day, foreign ladies come up to my wife and ask, “is that your husband? I’d love to meet a guy like that.” Conversely, I can walk around by myself grocery shopping and never get a look from a white girl.
It’s an interesting observation tho. I blame a lot of this behavior on shows like The Bachelor, Sex and the City, etc. If a guy isn’t Tom Cruise, American women “won’t settle” and thus their demands have become way too high.
Asian women on the other hand are just looking for a nice guy who will treat them with respect and chance to have a nice family.
Guess this is why I am married to my asian wife.
i met my boyfriend in college 7 months ago. were both the same age, im filipina he’s white. ive only been in america for less than a year and he’s one of the first people i met. im dating him not bcuz he cant pick up white girls but because we like each other. but then again, im with an american guy because I AM IN AMERICA AND MOST OF THE GUYS HERE ARE FUCKIN AMERICANS. some girls and most people actually find us cute together.
however for those filipinas who find husbands through mail orders, they are superficial and desperate and same goes to the american guys who marry filipinas through mail order. i’ve been hit a lot by old american guys in the phils and im old enough to marry one and leave the country, but im not that stupid.
you see, me and my guy hit it off on the first date bcuz we have a lot of things in common. i wasnt after the money and i wasnt after being saved economically or whatever you wanna call it.
not all asians are the same. there are stupid asians and there are decent ones. just becuz you see us with a foreign guy does not mean that we are after the money. i have nothing against american women, they are nice to me becuz i am decent around them and i respect them a lot.
and fyi, i may be filipina, but whenever i go to this filipino bar in our place and i see overly dressed filipinas covered with some funky ugly make up with her super fugly husband, i look at them funny because they just look trashy.
“As I’ve said in my earlier post, those people who date ONLY one type of person are seriously limiting themselves to what could be some wonderful experiences.”
Agreed! Perhaps you should be talking to white American women most of whom wont date outside their race!
“But think of it this way, if you really liked a man that didn’t care for you because you weren’t Blonde, you’re attitude would be (should be) well, then he’s not good enough for me because he cares more about appearances than the true heart of a person. Same rule applies to men that only want Asian women. They are truly not looking at the heart of any woman, but merely going for her simply because of her looks.”
Does the same rule apply for white women who only prefer white men? If so, based on your definition 95% of white women belong in this shallow category.
American woman said:
“You can prefer any woman you want, but I guarantee they are no different than American women in the end. We ALL have our flaws. All of us. So this defensiveness is really not worth the energy.”
The difference is American women wear their flaws like a badge of honor., screaming in rage until their men leave them.
BTW, I am 6′, 249 lbs, with a 32″ waist, darlin.’ Even at 46 I play ball, HARD and don’t mind taking it to the snot nose 20 year olds who fancy themselves as baaadddddd men. The difference in build is fascinating to the more slightly built asian women…and not so much to lots of asian women which is cool because I am not attracted to all asian women.
I have also dated 20 year old AMERICAN women but most ot them only want to spend my money and do not want children while I want a lot of children. They are only good for a laugh and a good time and this is THEIR choice. American women crack me up. They say, “Respect me!” Why? Why should I? 30, 40 or even 50 lovers before they are 30 years old? LOL, why should I respect you? More intent on being able to end a baby’s life than exercise some control? Why should I respect you? I know abortions occur in the Philippines, but at least they still feel guilt about it.
Others can pursue materialism and THINGS. I want kids who have been reared with morals, faith, humanity, and a work ethic and you cannot do that with one of The House Wives of Atlanta or Orange County.
…and I suspect itskayrabitch is a troll, LOL. Nice potty mouth, honey. You are now a real American woman. Good job. Most filipinas do not need nor use too much make up and the ones that do are generally GROs. Lack of needing make up is probably also a source of jealousy.
Ethel:
In my last post I said:
“I have also dated 20 year old AMERICAN women but most ot them only want to spend my money and do not want children while I want a lot of children. They are only good for a laugh and a good time and this is THEIR choice. American women crack me up. They say, “Respect me!” Why? Why should I? 30, 40 or even 50 lovers before they are 30 years old? LOL, why should I respect you? More intent on being able to end a baby’s life than exercise some control? Why should I respect you? I know abortions occur in the Philippines, but at least they still feel guilt about it.”
Feel free to delete that post and this one if you like. While what I said was true, it will maybe hurt some women’s feelings past bearing and it is pointless to do that. No amount of explanation will ever cross the divide that makes me choose not to marry into the cesspool this country has become and so there is no point in my verbally beating on these women who live like this, with no respect for themselves nor their honor. My sense of how I live is according to many, about 200 years out of date or worse, based on an ideal that has never existed. It is okay.
The subject is exhausting and I have no need to further defend my desire for what I see as an “honorable woman, full of virtue” and why I insist on such as a mother to my kids and best friend to me.
my first post in this thread was:
“trashcan man follow up // Apr 2, 2009 at 3:29 pm
btw why didnt u write ur article on the much more interesting, important and disciminatory issue of why white women dont like asian guys? thats the real issue.”
i also included this group in my analysis (#3). it has, however, been ignored by the hordes of insecure people in white male-asian female relationships who probably like this form of discrimination because it benefits them. as a non-asian male, i can only benefit from this discrimination as well, however, due to my lack of bias I am trying to raise it as an issue of racist discrimination.
mike1969, i originally believed that perhaps you were somewhat perturbed that my discussion of reality classed u unfavourably. i now, however, recognise that you are likely one of the desperate white losers who date fugly opportunistic asian women. enjoy
i have kept my discussion to white and asian people due to the nature of this blog, however, these forms of discrimination extend beyond here to many other races [white women liking black guys (jamaican sex tourism), white men and sth american girls (more sex tourism), asian people discriminating against dating people with dark skin, white men who favour blonde women, black/indian people disliking dark skinned people even of their own race etc]. these biases are largely based on racism or economic opportunism.
the evidence of this is all around you:
- sex tourism: goto thailand, phillipines, jamaica, brazil, cuba, etc and see the exploitation.
- how many white women do you know who like asian men? how many do u know who wouldnt date asian men? how many asian male – white female couples do u see?
- look at the holiday patterns of german males (socially recognised as the dating rejects of europe, with german women heavily dating foreign ethnicities) – single flights to sex tourist destinations such as Recife in northern brasil which has regular flights from germany (recife is a centre of human trafficking for prostitution)
- old white men with young fob asian women: dont deny u havent seen them
- look at the ppl you have known who date asian women and do an average of how many girlfriends they have had (asian or other) before their current girlfriend. chances are it is very low – ie they r considered less dateable.
- take demographics of the guys who fall into those categories and look at correlated classes – ie guys considered nerdier and less attractive by women often choose IT and engineering careers. compare the % of these guys who date asian girls to the of guys in other professions who date asian girls. IT/engineering % is higher
- more subjectively, look around at the white guys who date asian girls vs those who date white girls. usually they fall into the categories i discussed.
its unfortunate that most of you cant look beyond trying to justify your own situations (which i have utterly no interest in). im disappointed that most of you are so biased by your own situations (clearly evident through how you talk about yourselves) that you are trying to defend your situations by stating that I am biased by an agenda of apparently being hated by women (?)…
ethel, im happy you are now letting all posts through. it was unfortunate that you decided to moderate posts that you didnt favour. you are quite happy to criticise american women and allow bigoted insulting posts about them (whom i dont know much about since i reside elsewhere)
pete98146 was able to raise the point about how discrimination against him has forced him into a particular dating pattern. i fear that the majority of the rest of you would b neither mature nor secure enough to admit this or detact yourselves from exclusively dating 1 race due to racism/economic opportunism/stereotypes.
tim, your or anyone’s post shouldnt b deleted. ppl should b able to say wat they want. insults generally indicate most about the person saying them
dating based on a philosophy of life is an important part of a relationship. dating based on race, however, is merely racism. im sure there are american women, european women, african women, sth american women etc who would be compatible with your values. y r u ruling them out? in fact, the majority of asian nations (excluding the phillipines) are based on a utilitarian philosophy, which is one of the least compatible philosophies with the judeo-christian centric philosophies of most other countries. e.g. china states they have a different definition of human rights than elsewhere because of a different philosophy (they dont value all life equally as judeo-christian centric countries do)
The posts on here is baffling to me. On one hand we are saying don’t judge all asian women the same way because they are all different. Meanwhile to support your arguments you are lumping american women together. I was brought up in a very old fashion home with good values and morals. But based on the arguments presented on this post, I would automatically be disqualified by some of the men because I’m an american woman. I know that materialism and superfical ideals exist. It exists in all cultures and races.
I had the chance to live in an asian country for a year. As a black women, that was difficult in itself. I definitely witness prejudice almost daily and when I dated a white guy while I was there it was worse. Like I posted previously, the asian women treated me exactly how you claim they are treated in america. My boyfriend would constantly get asked by asian women why he was with me when there were so many beautiful asian women around. So I can related to how your asian girlfriends and wives feel. I don’t agree with the treatment on either end, but it’s going to happen. Preference and prejudice are very similar, they are almost entangled in one another. Sometimes your preference for one causes (or seems like) a prejudice against another. That is what causes some of the hostility. No one likes to be automatically disqualified without being given a chance. When you try explain your preference sometimes your word usage comes off offensive which causes bad reaction based on the audience. The hostility will always exists because we as a whole are not conscience of what we say or do sometimes. I’m not justifying bad behavior or discrimative behavior….but we both men and women contribute to how things are now because of our own actions. It’s actually kind of dissappointing that issues likes this still exist.
Tara, you are correct in your position that some here who object to asian women being judged as a group have chosen to judge American women as a group and that such a position would seem contradictory.
I have never defended my decision to choose only asian women to date as not being pre-judgemental of American women. I understand the idea that I am precluding, excluding, and pre-judging many fine, upstanding American women. I have been clear in that while yes, it may seem unfair to American women, it is not my objective to be fair, but to make choices that will make me HAPPY and that will result in the best mother for my kids…or at least maximize the chances.
I am under no obligation to be fair, nor am I under any moral obligation to exclude the issues of race, religion, political stance, culture or ANY issue I choose from the choices I make regarding the women I regard as potential wives.
American women choose to live as moral free agents, holding to no faith and no rules demanding only freedoms with no responsibilities, only rights no restraints, seeking to debase themselves to the level of men in terms of how they conduct themselves. There are exceptions to this; those exceptions are very few and even they will cow their heads and qualify their choice by saying but to each his own thus devaluing the worth of their decision.
All these condemnations apply to American men as well, but then men are irrelevant to the conversation for me.
I will not qualify the choices I make.
Tim:
Tim, me and you would make great friends. It’s frightening how similar our views our. I couldn’t agree more with you on the issues you’ve discussed. America has really gone down the drains and has progressively dragged our Moral principles through the mud.
I’d agree entirely, that American women are detestable to say the least. That doesn’t mean obviously, that every single American woman is a depraved, self-centered, egocentric human being but for the most part, sadly they are.
Our country has commenced a very obvious trend; ‘Act now, consequent later‘ and our, I (I‘m 24) generation has embraced this trend fully. Our country has displayed a blatant disregard for previous American, family ethics and ravish in the idea’s of capitalism even present on domestic levels. Fact is, At this moment, America’s highest economic need is higher ethical standards — standards enforced by strict laws and upheld by responsible business leaders.
“There are two levers to set a man in motion, fear and self-interest.” A famous quote Napoleon Bonaparte, a French general and emperor.
have you guys ever been to the philippines? or lived there? or even met people from there?
honestly speaking, filipino women are not all that. trust me, i live there. im not saying i am now american because i take pride of being filipino. go to the philippines and make some friends, ull find out that even college girls would have problems not getting pregnant or having too many men to make out with.
people, times have changed!
and btw tim, i dont wear or need make up. i know most filipinas dont need it. but there are just some who overuse it. and i also learned my profanities in the philippines, and i did all the worst things in the world back in the philippines. so no, it’s not the most holy place in the world.
infact i made some really good friends here in america and most of them are pretty much deserving for respect.
I think the problem is people are taking others of their own ethnicity for granted.
Tim,
Your decision to exclusively date 1 race leads me to be suspicious of your potentially reverse engineered decision. Repeating a few things I asked before:
1. y exclude other races that hold those values such as most europeans, africans, sth americans, american girls from the country, indians, etc? (ie most of the world)
2. asian philosophies are generally utilitarian which r the least compatible philosophy with the abrahamic based philosophies of life in most other countries (check out peter singer’s discussion from a utilitarian perspective on the rights of infants, disabled, unborn children, etc)
3. on aggregate, asians speak the poorest english of those ethnicities, which would make them the least capable of engaging in the advanced mature discussions that you value so much.
i would think that women from most european countries are the most compatible with you (e.g. portugal, austria) – hold traditional values, christian based philosophy, speak the best english of non-english natives, least likely to be gold diggers of non-english natives. why exclude them? or even country american girls…
Matt, consider us friends then, pardner. Also, check two sites, http://www.campaignforliberty.com and http://www.mises.org for some really cool food for thought. At 24, you are ahead of the game and we need GOOD moral American men in your age group in the most desperate way. You might find my words on my own blog too strong, though. If Obama were on fire I would not piss on him to put him out.
(Ethel, if this is not okay, feel free to edit the post and my apologies or thanks in advance whichever is appropriate. -Tim)
*Kayra* said: “and btw tim, i dont wear or need make up. i know most filipinas dont need it. but there are just some who overuse it. and i also learned my profanities in the philippines, and i did all the worst things in the world back in the philippines. so no, it’s not the most holy place in the world.”
I know, Kayra. I am sorry to see the worst of American culture being embraced by the Philippines. I also know that some communities there are terribly abused by the outside world. Angeles City, Manila, etc. I have personally busted the nose of an American who had a 15 year girl on his arm, so don’t tell me I don’t know anything about your country. I ache for the young women and rage at the way SOME foreigners treat them.
Sexual tourists better hope the Philippine government never starts selling hunting licenses and putting bounties on their heads because I hate their guts and the broken trail of young hearts that have been trashed and tossed makes me weep with rage and wish I had the power to call down legions of avenging angels for them. I will have to settle though for moving there one day and rearing my kids best I can to be good people and examples to others hopefully.
I have spent time in Manila, Makati, Quezon City, Bicol -only white man I saw for a week was in the mirror and that was SOOO cool! – and a short time in Angeles City that made me want to vomit. I also know that things in the bundoks are different from the cities, though how much is so different now, I do not know. I hope it stays the same. There is more honor in the province than in the city. I remain convinced of that.
Don’t be so proud of embracing American standards of behavior, Kayra. Our national fall is close and we run towards that cliff with laughter and bright smiles, just like the entitlement demanding, immoral layabouts we as a nation are, gleefully sacrificing out childrens’ heritage to the banks.
And trashcan man is a troll of some kind. I just cannot figure out what. He could be a white guy who is mad he is not black, a white woman who is mad at white women, or a black man who wishes he were white, or …well, his posts are so screwed into the ground as to defy analysis of whatever neurosis he clearly suffers from with regards to his personal interactions with the opposite sex, whatever that may be for the person called trashcan man.
I said: a white woman who is mad at white women,
I should have said: a white woman who is mad at asian women,
-Tim
Amazing. Trash Can Man, you are a discredit to your gender for most of the time, but you did hit the nail on the head about most women from Europe having the same old fashioned values that these people on here claim ALL asian women do. And yet, they swear that the sun rises and sets on these women and would rather be with them.
Here’s my point though, Tim, I have read all of your posts on here and if a person can make a judgement based on what your beliefs are (because that is pretty much what you have been talking about on here – holding court, as it may – YOUR beliefs) I would say you are a person that didn’t give the RIGHT American women a chance and you also might not have dated that much to begin with. One or both may apply.
Another thing that turns me off about you is your blatant Anti-American attitude. If that is truly how you feel, we (as American women) are not missing much so it truly is better that you find love in another part of the world. I sense a lot of hostility as if you were truly in love with somebody and they have just completely forsaken your love and now you can’t seem to get over it. Part of life is rejection and getting your heart broken and if you insist on crawling under a rock because of all that you’ve been thru, again, we (as American women) are better off without you.
Another thing, you seem narcissistic in some ways. You brag about yourself and talk yourself up, and yet I’m guessing you really don’t have much to offer anybody else, unless it suits you. Again, we (as American women) will not miss you.
Trash Can Man brought up a point about learning the English language and how a lot of Asian women comparatively to Europeans (who possess the same values as your beloved China Doll) don’t seem to be able to grasp it. My answer to him is why does somebody like you need a person that can speak her own mind. You seem to go only for the ones that are meek and mild so that as a Narcissist, you can “hold court” over the entire house and keep a control on your life.
Again, I understand that you have been hurt in the past, but part of being an adult is learning to overcome rejection and try again.
I know I’m going to receive all kinds of criticism from you for my observations because for most people the truth can hurt them. It’s just that, your Anti-American, negative attitude in most of your posts is finally telling your story. Only men with specific personality traits and physical characteristics are known to limit themselves in their quest for a soul mate. You fit. Good luck to you in your happiness, but as a narcissist you will never be truly happy.
tim, i knew ud struggle to respond to my questions. i didnt realise ud struggle so much as to avoid them entirely (twice). now im more certain that ur decision & explanation to date 1 race is neurotically reverse engineered due to natural selection.
your inability to class me is a testament to my impartiality. as i first said – y do white women dislike asian men? the same bias that everyone else is displaying
American Woman,
What do i say that makes me a discredit to my ‘gender’ (and y gender?)? My points are impartial, rational analysis on discrimination in dating that would be perceived as unfair, often caused by natural selection adaptation. I dont leave any group untouched.
Everyone is narcissistic to a degree. I highly doubt Tim is clinically narcissistic. Also, you clearly missed my sarcasm on english conversations with asian women…
How about you address the question I have repeated in almost every post here – why do white women discriminate against asian men in dating?
and for that matter, the other groups i mentioned:
“i have kept my discussion to white and asian people due to the nature of this blog, however, these forms of discrimination extend beyond here to many other races [white women liking black guys (jamaican sex tourism), white men and sth american girls (more sex tourism), asian people discriminating against dating people with dark skin, white men who favour blonde women, black/indian people disliking dark skinned people even of their own race etc]. these biases are largely based on racism or economic opportunism.”
ppl here think its fine when the discrimination benefits them, but are outraged when it doesnt
“I would say you are a person that didn’t give the RIGHT American women a chance and you also might not have dated that much to begin with. One or both may apply.”
You mean white women? Americans come in all colors.
“Another thing that turns me off about you is your blatant Anti-American attitude.”
Anti-white?
“Only men with specific personality traits and physical characteristics are known to limit themselves in their quest for a soul mate. ”
Unless you believe people should stick to their own races, you described most white American women (97%)…most wont give a person of another race a chance at dating even if he is a sixth generation American!
No, American woman, I am not going to criticise you. Why would I?
As for the language issue and the prescription that a European is more suitable for me, the irony of that position is there for all to see.
…and you would scream with laughter at how long this post started out before I chopped it back. I hope you are well.
-Tim
Oh come on people. Stop arguing over this stuff already.I’ve read all of the comments and this is what I have to say. It’s wrong to hate a person because of their ethnicity. It’s also wrong to like a person just because of their ethnicity. It’s the personality that counts. However, I can see why some people target Asian girls rather than other races. It’s not really the race, it’s the culture and mentality. People of a certain ethnicity share an average mentality and it may be that common mentality or culture that a person is attracted to. There is nothing wrong with liking a person for their personality (which is culture-induced most of the time) But if a person is so extreme as to want a race of woman for their physical appearance, sexuality, stereotyped wealth, etc, then that person is unjust. This would also be the case where a person would date only Asian girls and nobosy else (no matter how much they are compatible) and I frown upon that. For example, I am a black guy. I am so damn repulsed by black women. It’s not because of how they look or what possessions they have or anything but its because of their personality. (and many of them try to fllow the trend because that’s what’s popular among them) I would prefer an Asian girl. But that does not mean that I’ll date any Asian girl or reject all black women. Not all black women are so repulsive personality-wise and not all Asian girls are that way. (although the averages are significantly different) It mainly depends on the person. But man, I am so tired of looking in this community. It is understandable why a person like me would want to go to Asianto find one. If there are more there, then my chances at finding the right girls will be increased.